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hello everybody and welcome to automation talk today we're going to be talking about what are we talking about today Tom good about the productivity3000 and this is going to be a general overview of the hardware and we'll touch a little bit on the software a quick little demonstration of how easy it is to configure the hardware the productivity3000 right like Tom said we're going to be doing productivity3000 now we have done this in the past but we've made some changes since some of these in the past and recently we've been really been ramping up on productivity3000 talk shows and actually we have some learned videos hopefully they'll be out and real soon so by the end of this week the viewers should be able all right we're going to jump right into this that way we can stay in our time limit I think Tom and I are just going to bounce back and forth on these slides so first one that we have is a what's the program will automation controller you know because a lot of people you start to hear terms of pax PLC's you know you've got the Industrial PC and I know it's it's it's a little gray area right now because the industry hasn't really accepted a pact it's still a controller it's still an automation controller just like a PLC would be it just has more power than what a standard PLC used to have I think a lot of the history and everything if I try to make this real quick and everything you know programmable controllers came out they were industrialized they were hardened everything to set out in the factory for and the environments they were exposed to and but they kind of lacked in the early days you know some of the sophistication of what a PC might have so there was this I'd only call it a battle but you know depending on the application and whatnot people would go back and forth between okay if it's a simple application maybe I'll use a programmable controller because I need the reliability whatever but you know if I'm getting into some sophistication with math trying to record data and that I might try to use a PC so along comes you know PC based controllers that use typically PLC type IO and what we have today is the emergence of the PC into the PLC where we could take the PLC and use that to keep track of data and do more sophisticated projects and everything I mean the slide up here talks about the PLC being modular footprint you know it's one of the benefits whereas the PC with all its computing power and data handling capability you know can take care of the data and everything so it's it's its emergence of the two together and programmable logic control if you think of logic it's kind of straightforward simple you had some maths special functions you get into a PAC or programmable automation controller now we have the ability to start looking at data and manipulating data and make it an integral part of the factory for collecting data and the process and the production I think I've said enough about I think you did if you have any questions about that let us know hardware all right fast facts about the hardware like Tom said it's basically you know it's modular rack based footprint 36 discrete and analog i/o options yes there are going to be other cards that we will be putting in this rack that we'll be putting in this controller of course when we first release anything you can't just come out with everything you'd like to there's always going to be some additions there's always going to be requests for other modules or whatnot but yeah there's a lot of a lot of modules that's been in the works for a couple years now so they will be coming out just keep your eyes open what's cool is things like the CPU we got the seven built-in communications ports on the CPU huge it'd be a huge advantage yeah there's there's no serial programming with this anymore you know I think what our clique was probably one of the first ones what you went to the ability to go you know straight to USB with the cabling and everything right and and now with these as well you can use usb you've got USB for doing data logging and whatnot you've got USB for the remote i/o expansion stuff actually the expansion you've got cat five you're still using Ethernet on some of the stuff on these right right but the CPU is just if we were looking at specs a minute ago because I've got a comparison chart that you know you should get some questions about stuff and we're looking at you know some of the specs I mean most of the specs you look at it it's actually almost like 10 times more than what some of our older PLC's or our other PLC's have far as power and accessibility and what you've got on it but anyway both local and remote I'll expand ssin we've got some slides coming up where we'll explain that more in detail because what you see up here in front of us is you know here's here's a rack with the CPU below it's a local expansion but over on chain side we're actually that's our remote slave expansion and we'll explain that more in a couple slides and everything but huge huge advantage for expanding i/o all the way up to over 115,000 i/o points one of the things that impresses me the most is the built in memory 50 megabytes memory and what what's that do for us it allows us to create all our documentation which would be run comments and we're going to talk a little bit about the tag name database programming but it allows all the tag names the run comments and also we always forget there's instruction comments that each instruction not you know if I have a coil in a contact if I put you know comment on that coil I can put a separate comment on the actual contacts and everything individual contacts so that's a huge advantage but all that is all wrapped into the CPU and stored in the CPU so when you plug up to it if whoever programmed it actually puts some comments in there which would be bad practice not to but it happens but as long as there's comments and like I said descriptions whatnot in there you're going to pull them out where is the most typical PLC as you plug up unless you were given that project on a CD or a floppy or whatever a source code yeah your source code unless you have the original source code you're not going to add you're not going to know what it is let's just say you buy a piece of equipment and it has a PLC on it later on you've got to work on it you plug into it you're just going to see the latter and then you're trying to figure out how did they write everything so yeah this is awesome that you can have all that already in in the memory um the next slide we're going to get into more details on into the actual overall hardware the controller I think we had a close up of the LCD display on the p3 550 CPU there we go with this LCD and we'll talk about it further it actually you can program that to generate warning message you can use it to troubleshoot and you know take a look at what's going on you actually use that on the screen it's up there right now I think was left up there when we had Jeff in here doing some help for us and he's our product manager but basically he had that set up so he could take some data and dump it to a pen drive right you know that's why that screen still up there and it looks like somebody forgot their pen drive so don't tell them we'll keep that um it's available with four different racks and one thing I like to try to clarify on the racks there's three five eight 11 slots I think we have an example on our display boards up here of each but the main thing it sometimes gets a little confusion confusing when we start talking about local expansion and remote expansion which again we're going to get some more detail on it but if you read through the information and stuff we throw out there to almost sounds like okay I have my rack with my CPU in it I do local expansion on does that take a special rack no it's the same racks I mean you can take and put your CPU on a three slot rack and then right under it or nearer with a USB cable drop on a e.x module and then have an 11 slot rack we'll get into you know the hot swappable and no budget and everything more detail the same thing with the remote slave those are not special racks the only thing that makes them different you can have a 3 5 8 or 11 slot in the remote expansion use an Ethernet cable to a RS module which stands for remote slave so keep that in mind also if there's only two power supplies at this time that's either AC or DC I don't have the specs in front of me that the AC has a wide range of something like a hundred two hundred and you know 56 volts ac the DC power supply basically I think it might even have a range do you have any information on I'm not sure but look we won't hold off on that so we're just go ahead again no power budget restrictions you don't have to calculate you know the one power supply I'll take any combination you take 11 slot rack plop the CPU or an e axon or RS module in it and fill it up with the module that consumes the most power and that power supply is going to take care of all 11 slots hot-swappable i/o troubleshooting and you're out there and something goes wrong with a module and you want to keep your operation going you know you can keep it up and running and take that and there's some setup in the software where you know unless you have the right module in the right slot you know the CPU won't go in run mode and same thing with hot swappable you can set that up they'll allow that to be taken out without shutting down your process or the CPU and also we'll talk a little bit about our zip link I think there's you've actually got a few of them over there I can talk about them if you want to be the modeling okay model I we might have a slide on this but maybe this is good because I think you had it and you're like like I said you hold them okay I'll tell about them gotcha now we actually did some stuff on one of the videos but if you buy the majority of our IO cars for these there are a few there are a few cards that do come with the terminal zone it's going to be some of the analogs but yeah as you see what Tom's got in his hand there is a removable terminal block now so if you buy an i/o module you're not going to get any type of terminal block on there you have to buy this separately reason being is because in his other hand he's got a zip link cable if you're not familiar with our ziplink cables we've been selling these for I I want to say about 11 years now maybe 12 but basically it's breakout connectors they plug right in you got a nice breakout connector away from everything but that gives you the choice if you want to use a zip link or you want to use the just a screw in terminal block now on some of the cards you would actually have to show guys if you go to like km3 that shows like the high density on one of them there you go I don't think soo-min or not we've got some Tom's even got one in his hand I'm sorry yeah yeah he's got a 64 point module here well you couldn't get the terminal blocks to you know screw onto there so when you get into the 32 and 64 point modules you have to use a zip link cable it you know a breakout because you can imagine trying to wire up 64 i/o points plus all they're Commons and whatnot powers yes you know you probably say around what 70 wires you know coming into that module so then keep it all nice and clean you're gonna use a zip links so just keep in mind when you go to order one of these yeah you you've got your choice of do you want the terminal block or do you want the ziplink modules you might want to talk a little bit to when you know you get the module it's you know you order the connector of the ziplink separately right um but then also should point out the cover the door has wiring information on it shown here it actually snaps in place I can remove that it'll take out the module so if I'm using the zip link keep the camera there maybe I can show this the connectors um definitely the same connector all pre-wired but the actual baurel will actually snap into place on here and you have the same situation where it's wired and ready to go and the door comes with the i/o modules make sure you don't you know like you know switch them around cuz like tom says your wiring information is on the door and if you go to purchase any of the hardware it will tell you on the website or even our sales ladies they'll be glad to help you out with it but they'll remind you or the web or remind you you know you want a terminal block if you want a zip link so it would be hard to pass that one up get you know get the hardware in and be like I wasn't told any of this it does warn you on the web site alright the next slide is just basically hardware overview you see we just have you know standard ac/dc inputs and outputs some analog actually the analogs on that slide but relay outputs and it's the common eight 16 32 64 points of course the relays you've got it's um 8.1 scuzz just physical size of the relays on there it'd be impossible to get 64 for I don't know as technology gets better maybe we can come up some solid-state was it you tell me let's go ahead and jump to the next slide so we also have the analog and what's really neat about the analog and everything besides current and voltage and 16-bit analog and four eight and sixteen channel and everything the good part about it is there's an else seedy display and that LC display gives you configuration information it gives you troubleshooting information it tells you on some of the modules when you have to have 24 volts on it if you zoom in on some of our units we have powered up up here you'll probably see a 24 volt DC missing because we didn't take the time the placard the 24 volts to it but also on that display you can actually display the actual analog signal coming in to or going from the analog module and we also have combo modules so we can do analog in analog out on and by the way the LCD display is patent-pending I think it's the first in the industry were the Andal analog module actually has an LCD display on it that'll allow you to do all this but we can display the actual channel information in decimal hex and all that very stuff and as you can see up there there's some you actually got one wired up and one's not wired up okay not wired up says missing 24 volts the other one is actually telling how its wired up it's got you know it you see there's going through everything that gives you the firmware revision the part number what you have coming in what you have coming out as far as your type so it's 0 to 20 n 4 to 20 out warnings I'll tell you it's over ranged or under ranged and a lot of troubleshooting information in programming these is so so so so much easier than the old male sees in the past very definitely alright as you see again like like Tom said you know you get all these features but you can see on the slide all the lineup we've got with it you find all that information on our websites catalog as well high i/o applications up to a hundred and fifteen thousand plus and actually I've got one of the spec sheets here and it does say you know it gives some examples of what you could do as far as back so yeah 165 basis with 32 remote slaves 132 expansion units 64 GS drives you know it's funny as a can imagine the the time that our engineers had testing all this as far the physical hardware but they did have it there's several offices I used to be over the next door and next to these guys and there's several offices empty office if there are empty offices but they're just you know six-foot racks full of just basis just slam full of them so it's been tested it does work but it's that's crazy that you could have that much actually the office above mine they moved a whole gang of the racks up there and they're still up there running by themselves it's a kind of a you know lights-out dart little office with them we're still testing to make sure everything is up to speed and if we don't anybody have runs any problems of you know some quirky thing we can actually in-house test this you know duplicate any problem somebody might have and come up with solutions just make sure we miss anything on the slides um I think we hit everything there's no restrictions on module placement you can put on any of them anywhere except for the CPU it has to go in the first slot everything else goes wherever it wants to think Tom hit on the no power budget stuff and some of our other restriction of module right that's one who said okay so in the old way you see you had to go through the catalog say okay this one takes up this much you know current you know we had to add them up okay I'm over my power budget you don't have to worry about that anymore autodiscover if I'm Tom might hit on that today if not we've got some videos on it and it's cool because you can just go out there and autodiscover it'll Osterley it'll actually auto discover the drives drives and all the i/o modules and you don't tell you exactly you know what bass they're in and everything else communications I think the next three slides we're going to hit on communications but you know there's seven ports built in the main thing is you know we not only have a Ethernet we have regular Ethernet communications for programming and for data handling we also have Ethernet that actually takes care of our remote slave pipe and we can go out to up to 32 of the RS modules right and ran off of each of them we can have four bases of remote or local expansion using just simple a B type USB cables the CPU has the built-in LCD along with what's on an along as we discussed and in the software up to planet let me back up we're going to go into this seven communication ports in the next two slides a little more in-depth okay um we also have connectivity through the software with data works I think we have a automation talk webinar we did it's out there under the pre-recorded where we actually I think it's under advanced programming to where we actually go in detail and talk about how to set it up and use it and we actually use the same equipment up here to demonstrate it with the barcode scanner and some temperature reading and analog distance units that we used and everything okay I with the connectivity we can do Microsoft Access mo CB C and then also we can do sequel server type applications and everything hardware CPU like some said you know you've got all the ports on there Ethernet yep and I think they've got a close up if they'll go to cam one okay that slideshows pretty good the top work there is our USB programming port which you can use the USB programming for our USB for programming monitoring debugging firmware upgrades and then right up under that you've got Ethernet which is for programming again if you want to go Ethernet monitoring debugging firmware doing the email client Modbus TCP master and slave up under that one again is another Ethernet and that's for the remote i/o we mentioned that you can go to the GS drives under that is a USB out and that one's for and there's actually a pin drop plugged in there and that's for data logging or project transfer so you don't actually have to connect up with a PC you can just use a USB pendrive and transfer your projects next slide shows the other couple ports right there we go we go then you got your expansion for the p3x the local expansions and that's the very bottom one that's hard to see on that camera one there but um that's USB right yes sir and and up under those you've got rs-232 and a 485 and basically as for doing ascii Modbus I was 40 85 you know we can go up to what is that a thousand-foot to communicate with something on on a three wire right right all right I think that covers all the communications on the actual CPU itself so forward to the next slide and basically this one's showing the local expansion a little more detail on that and again you know we can take an 11 slot rack and drop out of that with a USB a/b type cable and go to a X module and we can have 4 racks with 4x bond holes in them and read a CX if you if you'll see there it's hard to see a little bit on there but do you see a cable plug into that e^x module and that's going that's your four communications back there you go for communications back to the CPU now as you see down below that there's a link Tom correct me if I'm right or if I'm wrong can you communicate through the e X's or is it only the RS it's just just the authorHouse okay so if we can talk about that because that's a pretty neat feature on basically you come into that module from you know your remote local remote from the CPU right into the top that's where the board is dazing out of that daisy chains they are bjbj bjbj i'm just like what they show there almost slide I just forgot if they could do communications or not but yeah you're right here's the one that's the remote i/o which side we've got removed is right on my side I believe it's up top here if they get the engineers just show that when they'll kick over to it it's uh yeah there we go the p3 RS it looks similar to the CPU you got another LCD screen on the front of it you've got some rotary switches for setting up which slaves it is but there is communications on these remote slaves that you can plug your computer into the slave and talk back to the CPU so if you have a long distance between your CPU and your slave and you're in a plant you get back and forth back and forth you can actually sit there and do some trouble eating at that rack you can actually walk out the remote location with that take your laptop with the software on it and set out there and troubleshoot make programming changes right like and as a slide shows also in Tom's mentioned you can you can tag a for additional local basis the expansion modules off of a remote i/o which in the past that was you couldn't do that right and we can have up to 32 of the RF modules hung off of the Ethernet hubs and everything arm back on that slide real quick I just want to mention too because this comes up it's hard to see there but that module also has on that bottom a type USB is for the local expansion but next to it is another rs-232 module and in our case we actually have a barcode scan or might have that and you know when to blow that as an rs4 8485 communication sports so even with the remote slave expansion you end up with one two three four five five communications ports so you know lots of strengthen and be able to expand it alright we're gonna jump on so we wanna run out of time here like we always do we're bad about that yeah you won't talk about the seam or any more on what's great with Seymour and everything I can set and develop my application and sit there and use my tag name database which we really can't talk about it's more in the software side of everything but you know I don't have to worry about you know I want analog out and it's called a O'Day you know one dot one dot zero dot one you know that's what's going to come up in the descriptor to tell me what you know base its in what slots it in and what you know particular point or data register it's point to right you know I can use real name names I can put them in there and the great feature with with the productivity3000 and Seymour is once I develop my application and I know all my inputs and outputs and all my internal registers and different things I'm going to you know talk about and use and I need an HMI I'm gonna you know automatically revert to using a c-more because what's really great I can take that tag named ace export it as a see what kind of a CSV file and then I can jump into my c-more and import it and start propagating my screens with you know buttons and data entries and readouts and everything else and we demonstrated some of that in a couple of our videos so great venture and we can have up to three thirty-two Seymour's three two there three to see tubes software highlights let's try to hit on this real quick and that way we can hopefully show some we're just going to toggle the hard work da light some full-featured software it's still free if you didn't know it we are selling it for free grow are giving it away for free or selling it for free download yeah it's free download you can't get a hardware copy of it it it's believe it's rode around like a six hundred dollar package what they're saying it is basically but it's not going to be free forever so jump on it while you can go ahead and download it auto discovery of the hardware we mentioned that a couple of times like said it'll it'll see all your hardware it'll see the drives everything that's tagged on it out there project file user documentation is stored in the CPU we already made that comment let me just sort of scan through this okay fill in the blank instructions we started some of that with our directs off five but that's nice that way if you don't remember exactly what instruction is you start typing and it'll actually populate populate your list that way if you forget Missy HTML bail based help files yeah they did a great job with the help files in the software we've actually backed off of making manuals as much as you know and trying to put it all the software in or the help files in the software that way you don't have to go by manual and to go find the manual have to lug your manuals around every time you go to a site or go to the machine USB data logging tag name database import we already mentioned that multi-level security options um and one of the strong features I don't know if you mention in Weber's the task management and we'll show that but it's down here in the lower left hand corner right I forgot about Allison and basic basically there I go using it we're basically but on the great feature with the task manager is during my software development I can actually take and segment my different parts of my programs and give them useful name so in my case I got some analog stuff going on here barcode and some data work request instructions but during troubleshooting I can actually take and move these different tasks into different things so I can have it set up so we're owning runs on the first scan I can have it disabled and I can just manually take and drop these you know two different parts here if you can still see the screen and use that for not only development but for troubleshooting later I'm going to have a specific task out there that it'll handle some kind of percolate or something and it's about working right but I want to take it offline I can take that whole program if it's self-contained and pull it and throw it in disable or just run it when it's called from some other tasks and everything and the next slide all we want to show here real quick before we wrap it up today is hardware configuration so I'm going to open a hardware configure there's a read configuration and once I hit that that's going to go out there and it's going to find all my I all all my connected i/o and it's also going to find any GS drives and I think it's up to 32 or is it 64 GS drives I can have hanging out there but next slide some reason I oops you can have 64 drives sixty-four drives pull and it's already here here's my this is actually gone out and it's bombed that first 11 slot rack with the CPU in and it's hard to see on the screen I'm bring the CPU up you know there's a lot of information on my CPU and concept-- my Ethernet port up I can set my serial ports up so there we go with that and then I can also you know I've actually located and found my remote slave 11 slot rack with another five I think it's five slot it's on a local expansion under I can actually you know bring up my analog port here and from here I can set it up right from this screen I can disable channels I'm not using I can set up ranges I can set up on multi ones whether it's going to be current or voltage and then from this I think this is a neat feature I can even change my tag names here if I want to at this point but down here under monitor if I click on that message comes up and says tags have been added to date of you so now if I jump over date of you it's just a matter of bringing up these different tag names that I've established in my case I a temperature probe hooked up and then I also have a damper up with it's not physically hooked up but I can actually then go to the date of you and pull up those tag names and actually monitor the results and everything I think if you go to the next slide it was a one more slide and we thought there were actually talking about that a analog module and everything so that pretty much wraps it up um this was kind of a quick overview dealing with the hardware touching on the software trying to let you know all the strong and features of the productivity3000 we don't talk too much about price but if you start comparing what you know this unit can do with seven communications ports and start comparing it to other programmable controllers that are out there on the market you'll you'll see this is a relatively inexpensive compared to the competition we face out there yeah there's we did some if you look in any of our advertisements the catalog I think I actually did some in some of the videos that we put out with the p3 is actually taking some of our older hardware and taking the p3 and saying okay this is the project we want to develop this is all of our requirements and it actually did come out cheaper using the p3 because we didn't have to buy a bunch of specialty modules a lot of communications modules and you know blah blah it all just it worked out now that's not always going to be the case I mean if you have a small project that no fob is going to get away with okay a hundred dollars but you know if you start looking in some more the more powerful ones then yeah you know take a look at it because it really yeah when you first see it's almost a little bit of a sticker shock but it's like wow look at all you have on just the processor you don't have to buy any of the other option modules that you would typically have to buy all right we're going to go ahead and stop and we're going to take questions and I had a couple of questions come in we'd love for you to ask any questions you've got we we really encourage the questions and we're going to answer those and if we don't answer all of them don't worry we'll shoot you an email because sometimes we just get overwhelmed or might not have an answer here first one that popped up is there any high speed stuff in the in the future coming out very definitely yeah like I said earlier on yeah we're not done with i/o cards they just basically released what we had ready to go there is motion control and high-speed and all that and the works there's more specialty modules in the worse there's more discreet and and analog cards in the works as well I mean it's just you know it takes time and if you can look at somebody asked the other day they're like well well how long is the product cycle on here you know you're going to quit making stuff after a while we're still making say the 2:05 PLC we're still coming out with new carts for the 205 DLC and look how long it's been out its have stuff in development yeah and people like well how long is the PLC going to be out and we'll look at our 305 PLC's they were out since well like 78 82 1982 somewhere in there and we're still selling those things I mean still support I'm a lot of them don't recommend you know you go out and design a new application but you know if you run across existing equipment out there and you need some kind of support on it we're here planting on always being here alright next question can a be logics programs be converted to use this process no unfortunately nobody no competitors product product is going to convert to another competitors product typically if you stay with a B you know you can like Thomason you can bring in information from say your HMI to your PLC programs vice versa same thing here I mean only our stuff is going to be able to be compatible we just try to make all of our stuff more compatible with each other but yeah you get into anybody else's manufacture stuff you're not going to find hardly anything there are commodity PLC's out there that use the I I what is it ie 6-1 100 whatever but you know we we have our own priority type software and programming and one of the main reasons is we feel that allows us to make it easier for the end-user to use I mean we spend a lot of time and work and putting this off word together to make it easy implement alright next question this is a good one I don't have the exact answer but I'm going to give an example of it this is what's the scan time would you compare say the p3 with a 260 well I've got the documentation on the 216 we were talking about this right prior to the show they're saying six hundred microseconds of 3k of boolean in a comparable CPU I don't have the 260 but in a comparable CPU which would be like the 250 they're saying one to two milliseconds for 1k so let's just say three times let's just max it yes say three times that so six milliseconds versus six hundred microseconds what point six milliseconds so it's 10 times faster basically times faster in a way and a lot of times you're not you can say well it's not apples apples oranges oranges each process or whatever the way the instructions and the coding and everything and the micro process or the microprocessor but the internal workings basically handles the data in different ways and the format's are a little bit different and everything but that does it does give you a ballpark figure so six mil seconds versus six hundred microseconds here's a good one Tom I'm gonna see if maybe you can open that back up we're going to give a little demonstration customer is asking what is a tag name well I actually had this come up the other day and I went on the internet trying to find a correct definition and on the internet let me tell you there was nothing there was some stuff that was in chemistry but there was nothing in the industrial world and if you look out there there's not a lot of good industrial terms or some books that we've used that we actually published some of their glossary x' okay hopefully somebody come up with something better but a tag name tom if you open up say your i/o and let's let's just for the heck of it you know we're down here I'm on my I'm sure what screen I'm on I'm on my analog screen here doesn't matter it doesn't matter we can say there's a mellow Darrell directlogic it always ended in a NOP which no op RN statements there so we don't care all we have to do is set here and drop this in and what I can do instead of I can go over here and look through all my available you know so here's a bunch of digital inputs and they're already you know named with the the rack number the the base number the slot number the point number but right here under normally open I can put give me a name what do you want to know when I go back to an input only use a perfect example the input okay you want first at the first input on the first card and the first rack okay okay you open that up yep now you can leave that the way it is the digital input it says di with zero dot one dot one dot one right right okay you can leave that the way it is bilis just say for instance that you've got that hooked up to a limit switch okay what's your limits what you do ah it's the door limit switch okay so there's a door on the machine or just the door just a dulls your machine have worn one door no it only has one door on it how about if it had two doors well then you can call it door to okay or we can call it maybe it's on the east side of the machine fine but whatever machine gets moved then we could come back and change it look off the East door open right you want to when that door is old but surely sure okay and it's gonna be a bowl in because it's discreet we say okay well guess what that's a tag name yep right yep that's our tag name is if I have to go back and troubleshoot all I have to do is you know yeah you don't you don't have to go back to the card and say okay well if you didn't have your schematics what is that first input wire - you got a trace down all the wires what does it go to and you finally figure out okay it's a sensor where is a sensor at you can just look at the tag name exactly and it's in the processors in the program so when you open it up all that comes in so as long as somebody programs it that way then it makes more sense and like Tom said earlier you can take all those tag names and you can import them into your seam or so you could have say an alarm screen on your c-more that says you know doors open and starts flashing well guess what that tag is already in there it's already programmed you don't have to go find it and create it and whatnot and link them together it's already there okay that was easy enough sorry no problem I got a little higher on that one but it's it's a good one because I get we've been getting asked that a lot by a lot of new users it's a lot of new customers actually new - yeah when I first came in and so we started selling you know some HMI people were tagging this tag name I'm what is it that I've been working for PLC's for 10 years I don't know what a tag name is you know but that's what a tag name is all right we're out of time as we always are we're going to go ahead and wrap up any of the questions that we did not answer don't worry we'll e-mail them to you if you've got any more questions go ahead and ask them well well like I said we'll be glad to answer these when we get done we'll just email you the answer to it there go some ending video here about pole tongs and what not actually our next slide I think I can hit that one real quick our information resources don't worry about jotting all these down we'll send these to you in 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